Well said. I tend not to write about political topics. Not so much that I try to avoid them, but I have a very difficult time encapsulating what I feel and believe and don’t feel any desire to spit totally unprocessed garbage out into the blogoshere.

The Arab/Israeli thing, of course, is much more than a political topic. It may be the most important thing happening in the world. My comments, though, are more about Carter’s book than they are of the strife in the region.

If you haven’t, I urge you to read the book. Not that it will change your opinion in any way, but he does bring a load of facts to bear that most people, me included, are not normally made familiar with. As you state, his position may be tainted because of Arab donations to his institute, but it’s hard to deny many, if not most, of his observations.

Perhaps I myself am biased to accepting some of what Carter says. I have frequently traveled to Israel and I feel that I have several close friends who are Israelis. My familiarity with how they think and act makes it very easy to see how the ever-changing free-for-all that is the Kineset has not held a consistent posture on building in the West Bank, for example, over the decades since 1967.

I’m not defending Carter’s position nor the Palestinian point of view, but I have always been a bit suspicious of the extreme pro-Israeli view of the situation that we are presented with in the US. In that light, Carter’s logical, although as I mentioned in the post, unbalanced, statement of facts of the situation are a real eye opener and make for a much more logical view of the what is going on than what I have been spoon-fed all my life.

I hope that makes sense.

Well said. I tend not to write about political topics. Not so much that I try to avoid them, but I have a very difficult time encapsulating what I feel and believe and don’t feel any desire to spit totally unprocessed garbage out into the blogoshere.

The Arab/Israeli thing, of course, is much more than a political topic. It may be the most important thing happening in the world. My comments, though, are more about Carter’s book than they are of the strife in the region.

If you haven’t, I urge you to read the book. Not that it will change your opinion in any way, but he does bring a load of facts to bear that most people, me included, are not normally made familiar with. As you state, his position may be tainted because of Arab donations to his institute, but it’s hard to deny many, if not most, of his observations.

Perhaps I myself am biased to accepting some of what Carter says. I have frequently traveled to Israel and I feel that I have several close friends who are Israelis. My familiarity with how they think and act makes it very easy to see how the ever-changing free-for-all that is the Kineset has not held a consistent posture on building in the West Bank, for example, over the decades since 1967.

I’m not defending Carter’s position nor the Palestinian point of view, but I have always been a bit suspicious of the extreme pro-Israeli view of the situation that we are presented with in the US. In that light, Carter’s logical, although as I mentioned in the post, unbalanced, statement of facts of the situation are a real eye opener and make for a much more logical view of the what is going on than what I have been spoon-fed all my life.

I hope that makes sense.

Unfortunately, the Israeli-Arab (not just Palestinian) conflict has seen only compromises from the Israeli side. President Carter is known for his anti-Israel approach in the conflict but numerous fundings of his center and of his library by Arab countries, sheiks, and Arab private patrons make his point of view, mildly speaking, biased.

There are tons of info in the net on the history of the conflict and the facts are easy to find for one striving for truth so I don’t want to list them here. Just one short reminder from the recent history. Barak in 2000 offered to Arafat return of 97% of the “occupied” territories, split of Jerusalem, and return of some of the “refugees”. Instead Israel got a new intifada. What else should Israel have offered? Return of 6 millions of the “refugees” to its cities? The only concession the Palestinians want is to wipe Israel off the map. The Arab world, with exceptions of even Egypt, Jordan, and Micronesia don’t even recognize Israel! They are not looking for a solution of the problem. They use Palestinians as their own hostages in the war of civilizations and see Israel the frontier of this war.

“Israel hasn’t given up much since the 1967 war”. What Palestinians have ever given up? Today’s government even doesn’t want to recognize Israel. Why president Carter doesn’t count the fact that there are 1.5 millions of Arabs that Israel’s given citizenship, that don’t serve in army, the majority of them doesn’t pay taxes, and again majority hates Israel?

No doubt, Palestinians struggle a lot in this conflict and Israel is the evil side to blame. Israel is blamed for not giving Palestinians water, gas, electricity; for not allowing them to work in Israel(!), for locking their borders (see what outbreak of weapons it got after withdrawing from Gaza), for everything possible. Israel has tried. Many times, and every time got a knife in the back.

Will, I never posted a political topic on my blog and see you did it (not directly though) first time here. Just couldn’t resist to comment; it’s painful. Painful very much to see how the country is shrinking and the entire world urges us to make another concession, another step to nonexistence, another move to a new tragedy.

Unfortunately, the Israeli-Arab (not just Palestinian) conflict has seen only compromises from the Israeli side. President Carter is known for his anti-Israel approach in the conflict but numerous fundings of his center and of his library by Arab countries, sheiks, and Arab private patrons make his point of view, mildly speaking, biased.

There are tons of info in the net on the history of the conflict and the facts are easy to find for one striving for truth so I don’t want to list them here. Just one short reminder from the recent history. Barak in 2000 offered to Arafat return of 97% of the “occupied” territories, split of Jerusalem, and return of some of the “refugees”. Instead Israel got a new intifada. What else should Israel have offered? Return of 6 millions of the “refugees” to its cities? The only concession the Palestinians want is to wipe Israel off the map. The Arab world, with exceptions of even Egypt, Jordan, and Micronesia don’t even recognize Israel! They are not looking for a solution of the problem. They use Palestinians as their own hostages in the war of civilizations and see Israel the frontier of this war.

“Israel hasn’t given up much since the 1967 war”. What Palestinians have ever given up? Today’s government even doesn’t want to recognize Israel. Why president Carter doesn’t count the fact that there are 1.5 millions of Arabs that Israel’s given citizenship, that don’t serve in army, the majority of them doesn’t pay taxes, and again majority hates Israel?

No doubt, Palestinians struggle a lot in this conflict and Israel is the evil side to blame. Israel is blamed for not giving Palestinians water, gas, electricity; for not allowing them to work in Israel(!), for locking their borders (see what outbreak of weapons it got after withdrawing from Gaza), for everything possible. Israel has tried. Many times, and every time got a knife in the back.

Will, I never posted a political topic on my blog and see you did it (not directly though) first time here. Just couldn’t resist to comment; it’s painful. Painful very much to see how the country is shrinking and the entire world urges us to make another concession, another step to nonexistence, another move to a new tragedy.